A few notes on Kingdom Hearts and Advent Children Cloud. One thing that's weird is the implication that Cloud and Sephiroth (and possibly Tifa) aren't from Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden, if we're to assume that the "Did they go back to their own world?" comment wasn't a gaffe on someone's part, so it's entirely possible that Cloud's homeworld is still gone in KH2, giving him room to angst. On the other hand, the fact that Cloud is still obsessing over Sephiroth is a bit strange, given that he isn't even really a villain in the game. In fact, he doesn't do anything really, except show up to taunt Cloud. Sure, he plays around with Sora for a bit, but when Sora proves too tough to squash but too weak to be a real threat, he says "I'm bored now, go do something useful and find Cloud for me." One way of looking at it is that Sephiroth lost his own independent existence and is relying on Cloud's darkness to sustain himself, which is why he goes out of his way to piss him off, and why he nearly panics when it looks like Tifa is getting through to him. If this is true, it's possible that Cloud is moping because Sephiroth is, when we're not looking, running around making his life miserable to keep him in the darkness. Advent Children wise, it was mostly compressed because of time limits, I think. He had to have a character arc or the movie would have been total fanservice instead of just mostly fanservice, but it had to be one that was easy enough to overcome in the time allotted. Plot-wise it may have worked better if Aeris's Great Gospel had, instead of just curing the Geostigma, actually washed away the JENOVA cells, meaning that Cloud would have to learn to be strong again after losing all his SOLDIER-First Class Plus abilities, but there was really no way to do that in the time they had. On a side note, given that the Great Gospel didn't wash away the JENOVA cells, Denzel and the others would now seem to be essentially SOLDIERs. Wonder what the implications of that are.
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One thing that's weird is the implication that Cloud and Sephiroth (and possibly Tifa) aren't from Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden, if we're to assume that the "Did they go back to their own world?" comment wasn't a gaffe on someone's part, so it's entirely possible that Cloud's homeworld is still gone in KH2, giving him room to angst. On the other hand, the fact that Cloud is still obsessing over Sephiroth is a bit strange, given that he isn't even really a villain in the game. In fact, he doesn't do anything really, except show up to taunt Cloud. Sure, he plays around with Sora for a bit, but when Sora proves too tough to squash but too weak to be a real threat, he says "I'm bored now, go do something useful and find Cloud for me."
One way of looking at it is that Sephiroth lost his own independent existence and is relying on Cloud's darkness to sustain himself, which is why he goes out of his way to piss him off, and why he nearly panics when it looks like Tifa is getting through to him. If this is true, it's possible that Cloud is moping because Sephiroth is, when we're not looking, running around making his life miserable to keep him in the darkness.
Advent Children wise, it was mostly compressed because of time limits, I think. He had to have a character arc or the movie would have been total fanservice instead of just mostly fanservice, but it had to be one that was easy enough to overcome in the time allotted. Plot-wise it may have worked better if Aeris's Great Gospel had, instead of just curing the Geostigma, actually washed away the JENOVA cells, meaning that Cloud would have to learn to be strong again after losing all his SOLDIER-First Class Plus abilities, but there was really no way to do that in the time they had.
On a side note, given that the Great Gospel didn't wash away the JENOVA cells, Denzel and the others would now seem to be essentially SOLDIERs. Wonder what the implications of that are.