... merry fucking holiday to you too, troll. I totally wanted to see scat porn all over fucking zack_aeris on Christmas fucking Day. *removes comm from flist until the porn is gone*
It does. Oh god. I found a Malboro x Cloud fic once... x_x Our fandom, eet ees crazy.
I've found certain dysfunctional corners of the FMA fandom to be pleasant places to tarry, actually. XD Though Harry Potter... yeah, nothing outdoes that one. Poor J.K. Rowling.
... My Little Pony is dysfunctional? How is My Little Pony dysfunctional?! D:
My god, I've never heard of that. That's it, the fandom must be HIGH. That's the only explanation I can think of. I left the FMA fandom ages ago because it got too... hum, elitist, I guess. I mean, the anime's okay and all, but it really pisses me off when people go batshit whenever someone says it's not the greatest they've ever seen. Harry Potter will forever rule as the king of dysfunctional fandom, though I can't exactly say Rowling didn't deserve it. While many people are spazzing about book 6 (and for good reason- it certainly wasn't the best written one, though it's for understandable reasons), everyone else seems to be going bonkers over the interview (bolded 'cuz I can). Poor Ron gets no love.
As for My Little Pony... There are apparently these forums where rabid collectors go. Many of them completely spazz out when a new one's released because they feel as though their childhood's being raped or something. But the real kicker? Never, ever mention removing your pony from the box. I'm not kidding here. These guys are NRFB (never removed from box) fanatics! Apparently some people pay a lot of money for them. I can't see their worth for anything other than sentimental value, but who am I to judge? My sister and I were taking our youngest sis out to Toys R Us day before yesterday when we saw the My Little Pony section. We joked that we should remove them all from their boxes and post it online to see what would happen. But yeah, it's dysfunctional. Yikes. I'd post a link to some choice bits here, but I can't seem to find anything. It's only when you actually want it, isn't it? xD
That damn manipulate materia. It's one of the most evil things created, and I am amazed that it isn't as abused as it could be.
The Interview is possibly one of the dumbest things ever posted. Well, I say 'dumbest' in the fact that some of the stuff said should not have been said or at least published. Don't ask, don't tell, right? here's a link (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/extras/aa-jointerview2.html). It's got a huge case of spoilers and the TLDR, but it's the stepping stone from most insanity henceforth. Though I'm sure you already knew of it =p
(sorry I took so long with this one- that link was, oddly enough, harder to find than I'd thought it would be.)
I'm sure JKR would be the first person to admit that she was wrong in her choice of words for some answers. Interviews are hard anyway, since you don't get much time to think before you answer- it's mostly on the fly, and if you take too much time thinking over a question, people take note. It looks like she and the whole interview staff have a case of the 'it seemed like a good idea at the time' mentality. Needless to say, the fandom has gone absolutely batshit after all that. In fact, it's still going batshit. People have gone so far as to rewrite book 6 online for Harry/Hermione content, and possible death of Ron- yes, they all hate him that much. Which makes me sad, because I love all the Weasleys =/
(And Right-o captain, we'll pretend I never said anything concerning that glowing orb of evil!)
... yeaaah, Harry Potter fandom horrifies me. I just don't get all this senseless character hate. Character hate makes me sad. I like the Weasleys too. And man, Ron just gets the short end of the stick all the time.
That's exactly why I've made it a point to stay as fa~r away from that fandom as humanly possible. Just because half of the pairing you like ends up with someone else doesn't mean you have to hate the other person involved. I don't get why people get so worked up over this stuff. I mean, hello- books! Forget about that one, people? They're just missing the point. I'm not sure if these people are simple minded or what, but you can have ships that are contradicted by canon. For example, if Cloud/Aeris was made 'canon', I wouldn't be insanely upset. Disappointed, yes, but I wouldn't completely wig. I'd still ship my Cloud/Tifa and Zack/Aeris, and there's not a damn thing canon can do to change my mind!
(Though you know, using 'manipulate' to rob banks and stuff could be fun. Hum.)
Yep. I won't touch that fandom with a ten-foot pole - I'll just read the books and be happy, thank you. XD And oh, so true. Honestly, the H/Hr shippers should take a note from the slash fans, we have a very large supply of chill pills. XD I love me some Z/A, and C/T is slowly fuzzing its way into my heart... but I also happen to adore the hell out of Z/C. XD There's no place in canon where it could happen, and yet it's one of my OTPs. XD
(Oh, the chaos. XD It's certainly been helping me with the Limit Quote Project...)
It's funny, cuz some of the slashers are just as anal as the het...uh, ters. It's absolutely bizarre. I mean, seeing their self-proclaimed 'flame wars' is one of the most frustrating ways you can possibly use your time. They rant, rant, rant, and still never manage to get a point across excepting the fact that they've just made themselves look even more like a fangirl/boy than they already had before.
But regarding the FF stuff: it's funny, but there's that whole span of time while they're in SOLDIER that isn't witnessed, so a lot of people abuse the hell out of it- the basis for most Cloud, Zack, or Sephiroth oriented doujinshi out there ends up being in that small stretch of time. So there's your place in canon xD I don't mind it, personally. I happen to have quite a bit of Z/C doujinshi sitting on my computer- one of my favorite circles (I'm still not sure if it's a circle of psuedonym, actually) is Yubinbasya. Their artwork's just so damn pretty.
(Limit Quote Project? Mind elaborating? =p) Bah. Anyway. Bed for me. Must sleep! Argh, sleep good!
... yeah, true, we slashers freak the hell out about things too. But at least we don't bitch and whine about our pairings not being canon! XD
Oh yes, I know all about that span of time. XD My reasoning, though, is that Zax had Aerith during that time, so I doubt he'd be banging his 15-year-old male friend on the side. XD Not that this keeps me from suspending my disbelief long enough to read about it, though...
Oooh, doujin. ♥ I dunno, I could never get into Yubinbasya... objectively I can agree that their art is pretty, but it's just not my style. I have found a really nice one by Ginga29 called Strays, though. *must look for at conventions*
(It's basically me being OCD and putting it in Capital Letters to Sound Cool. XD You know how the characters say things when you teach them their ultimate limits? They also say other things if you try to teach them too soon or try to give them someone else's item. I've been training all of them up in order to catalogue what they say. XD)
Bitching and whining about lack of canon is the most annoying type of bitching. There are more important things to get yourself worked up over, dammit! (to emphasize a point)
See, now that's cool. A lot of people that I've noticed actually write their whoooole relationship out, or argue that Zack and Aeris never actually had any kind of a relationship- that Aeris was mistaken or some other reasoning. While it might be somewhat blasphemous of me to say, I think some interesting stuff could be written during that time period. I mean, think about it- Zack is still technically involved with Aeris, but there's this potential for a taboo love affair. He just needs to be convinced. Of course, Cloud would have to be the agressor at this point, and we all know that's not going to happen!
As for Yubinbasya, I'll admit that I do like their artwork, but that's basically all I (can) like about them. I tried reading one of their books before, and it was actually pretty hard. Squicked easily, I guess. I've just collected cover artwork, actually. I'd kill for one of their artbooks. From what I hear, they do some het (pictures) too, sometimes. But when I look at some of their pictures of chicks, I can't help but see why they draw guys all the time =p That Strays doujinshi, though.. that sounds familiar.
Seriously. I'm a rabid canonwhore, and even I acknowledge that's not the most important thing to get riled up about. XD
Yeah, that's something that always scratches at the back of my head when I read Z/C stuff. Even while I'm enjoying the smutty manlove, I keep thinking "But what about Aerith?" I usually end up disclaiming to myself that it's AU where Zax never met Aerith, or broke up with her, or whatever... (You know, that would make an interesting AU fic in itself. Zax never met Aerith, has a relationship with Cloud, meets Aerith, falls in love with her aaaand TENSION.)
Ooo, taboo love affair Z/C would be genuinely interesting to read. :D I suppose Zax could be the aggressor, he is a flirt despite dating Aerith... but yeah, I doubt he'd be so inclined to be genuinely unfaithful. And Cloud would never take the initiative, no. XD
Ahh. See, I don't mind it a little hard, I think what would mainly bug me about Yubinbasya is the body proportions. I speak as an artist who's been through life drawing courses, so things like grossly overlong arms make me go ARGH. XD And Strays... I think it's my favorite slash doujin full stop, right now. I mean, it's porn, but it's nice, relatively tasteful porn, and it doesn't look like Cloud's getting molested, which is a very nice change from the doujins I usually see. XD
(XD It's fun, certainly. Here's the list I've compiled thus far. I think I'll work on Barret tonight. :3)
The only thing I really canonwhore about is... well, mythology. But then again, I don't do fanworks based on it- it's learning the whole of the story! It's not like I ship Thor/Loki or anything like that xP (wait, that was completely off topic!)
Concerning pairings and stuff, though.. AU is a wonderful, wonderful thing. Some people can pull it off amazingly well. Though I will say that if I see another high school AU, I'll have to punch someone in the face. I mean, it wasn't all that great the first time, and it takes a special skill to pull something like that off well. The whole Zack meets Cloud meets Aeris thing sounds awesome though. If I'm a sucker for anything, it's that awesome plot device called romantic tension.
No one really wants to admit it ('cept a... select few >D), but Cloud really is kind of a wimp. Not in the physical sense, of course not! But mentally he's almost too unstable (at least at all the points canon covers, until arguably the end of AC) to be the agressor in most any relationship. I don't mean this in a bad way- I love Cloud to death. He's an awesome, complex character. But... hm, I get the impression that he doesn't know much of 'the world', if you know what I mean =p
Ever seen Yubinbasya draw girls? Yikes! Their artwork seems to be hit or miss in many cases- they get it right, or it gets screwed up. I've actually seen some drawings where Aeris seems to have breasts on her stomach (see like here! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/melfra/f1a6a799.jpg)).
(ze link, she does not work! I weep!)
I am completely incoherent. I accidentally slept until 1 ;.; Screw this, I'm getting an alarm clock, dammit!
High school AUs need to die. Seriously. So do all the other inane AU ideas that are never done well. There is a point where you just have to give up and make up your own damn characters. XD (Says she who has this mythical-creatures FF7 AU kicking around her head... at least I realize I'll never write it. XD) But yeah. I'd love to see that fic. Not write it, though, I have no faith in my ability to pull that off well.
Oh, absolutely. Spot on. That sort of weakness is why Cloud is so compelling, I think. You can relate to him more than you can relate to virtually any FF hero before him. :3 And about Cloud not knowing much... XD You know those "On The Way to a Smile" stories? In Tifa's story, when they reopen Seventh Heaven.... "Cloud's job was to obtain the ingredients they needed for their food and wine. He didn't know most of the names of the fruit and vegetables. At first, Tifa was surprised but when she thought about the life that Cloud had, it couldn't be helped. It was funny when she thought about how Cloud's new life was going to start by remembering the names of vegetables. No, I musn't laugh, Tifa thought to herself."
... oh, yikes. Yes, Yubinbasya should stick to the menfolk.
Ha ha, I know your pain. XD I managed to sleep through an entire day a few weeks ago. It sucked.
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I've found certain dysfunctional corners of the FMA fandom to be pleasant places to tarry, actually. XD Though Harry Potter... yeah, nothing outdoes that one. Poor J.K. Rowling.
... My Little Pony is dysfunctional? How is My Little Pony dysfunctional?! D:
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As for My Little Pony... There are apparently these forums where rabid collectors go. Many of them completely spazz out when a new one's released because they feel as though their childhood's being raped or something. But the real kicker? Never, ever mention removing your pony from the box. I'm not kidding here. These guys are NRFB (never removed from box) fanatics! Apparently some people pay a lot of money for them. I can't see their worth for anything other than sentimental value, but who am I to judge? My sister and I were taking our youngest sis out to Toys R Us day before yesterday when we saw the My Little Pony section. We joked that we should remove them all from their boxes and post it online to see what would happen. But yeah, it's dysfunctional. Yikes. I'd post a link to some choice bits here, but I can't seem to find anything. It's only when you actually want it, isn't it? xD
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Hmm... elitist? Yeah, I guess I can see that... I'm not really in the fandom myself, FF7's the only one I'm even remotely active in right now.
The interview? Whassat now?
... oh, man. You know, I bet those people go into frothing seizures when they see all the MLP mods out there, then. XD
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The Interview is possibly one of the dumbest things ever posted. Well, I say 'dumbest' in the fact that some of the stuff said should not have been said or at least published. Don't ask, don't tell, right? here's a link (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/extras/aa-jointerview2.html). It's got a huge case of spoilers and the TLDR, but it's the stepping stone from most insanity henceforth. Though I'm sure you already knew of it =p
(sorry I took so long with this one- that link was, oddly enough, harder to find than I'd thought it would be.)
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Ahhh. I actually found that interesting to read, but wow, god damn, I can see how that sent people into a froth.
(no problem. :3)
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(And Right-o captain, we'll pretend I never said anything concerning that glowing orb of evil!)
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(Well done!)
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(Though you know, using 'manipulate' to rob banks and stuff could be fun. Hum.)
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(Oh, the chaos. XD It's certainly been helping me with the Limit Quote Project...)
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But regarding the FF stuff: it's funny, but there's that whole span of time while they're in SOLDIER that isn't witnessed, so a lot of people abuse the hell out of it- the basis for most Cloud, Zack, or Sephiroth oriented doujinshi out there ends up being in that small stretch of time. So there's your place in canon xD I don't mind it, personally. I happen to have quite a bit of Z/C doujinshi sitting on my computer- one of my favorite circles (I'm still not sure if it's a circle of psuedonym, actually) is Yubinbasya. Their artwork's just so damn pretty.
(Limit Quote Project? Mind elaborating? =p)
Bah. Anyway. Bed for me. Must sleep! Argh, sleep good!
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Oh yes, I know all about that span of time. XD My reasoning, though, is that Zax had Aerith during that time, so I doubt he'd be banging his 15-year-old male friend on the side. XD Not that this keeps me from suspending my disbelief long enough to read about it, though...
Oooh, doujin. ♥ I dunno, I could never get into Yubinbasya... objectively I can agree that their art is pretty, but it's just not my style. I have found a really nice one by Ginga29 called Strays, though. *must look for at conventions*
(It's basically me being OCD and putting it in Capital Letters to Sound Cool. XD You know how the characters say things when you teach them their ultimate limits? They also say other things if you try to teach them too soon or try to give them someone else's item. I've been training all of them up in order to catalogue what they say. XD)
Sleep is very good! Sleep well! ♥
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Bitching and whining about lack of canon is the most annoying type of bitching. There are more important things to get yourself worked up over, dammit! (to emphasize a point)
See, now that's cool. A lot of people that I've noticed actually write their whoooole relationship out, or argue that Zack and Aeris never actually had any kind of a relationship- that Aeris was mistaken or some other reasoning. While it might be somewhat blasphemous of me to say, I think some interesting stuff could be written during that time period. I mean, think about it- Zack is still technically involved with Aeris, but there's this potential for a taboo love affair. He just needs to be convinced. Of course, Cloud would have to be the agressor at this point, and we all know that's not going to happen!
As for Yubinbasya, I'll admit that I do like their artwork, but that's basically all I (can) like about them. I tried reading one of their books before, and it was actually pretty hard. Squicked easily, I guess. I've just collected cover artwork, actually. I'd kill for one of their artbooks. From what I hear, they do some het (pictures) too, sometimes. But when I look at some of their pictures of chicks, I can't help but see why they draw guys all the time =p That Strays doujinshi, though.. that sounds familiar.
(Hilarious! "I'm not taking it.")
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Yeah, that's something that always scratches at the back of my head when I read Z/C stuff. Even while I'm enjoying the smutty manlove, I keep thinking "But what about Aerith?" I usually end up disclaiming to myself that it's AU where Zax never met Aerith, or broke up with her, or whatever... (You know, that would make an interesting AU fic in itself. Zax never met Aerith, has a relationship with Cloud, meets Aerith, falls in love with her aaaand TENSION.)
Ooo, taboo love affair Z/C would be genuinely interesting to read. :D I suppose Zax could be the aggressor, he is a flirt despite dating Aerith... but yeah, I doubt he'd be so inclined to be genuinely unfaithful. And Cloud would never take the initiative, no. XD
Ahh. See, I don't mind it a little hard, I think what would mainly bug me about Yubinbasya is the body proportions. I speak as an artist who's been through life drawing courses, so things like grossly overlong arms make me go ARGH. XD And Strays... I think it's my favorite slash doujin full stop, right now. I mean, it's porn, but it's nice, relatively tasteful porn, and it doesn't look like Cloud's getting molested, which is a very nice change from the doujins I usually see. XD
(XD It's fun, certainly. Here's the list I've compiled thus far. I think I'll work on Barret tonight. :3)
Wow, sorry about that. It anonymoused me. O_o;
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Concerning pairings and stuff, though.. AU is a wonderful, wonderful thing. Some people can pull it off amazingly well. Though I will say that if I see another high school AU, I'll have to punch someone in the face. I mean, it wasn't all that great the first time, and it takes a special skill to pull something like that off well. The whole Zack meets Cloud meets Aeris thing sounds awesome though. If I'm a sucker for anything, it's that awesome plot device called romantic tension.
No one really wants to admit it ('cept a... select few >D), but Cloud really is kind of a wimp. Not in the physical sense, of course not! But mentally he's almost too unstable (at least at all the points canon covers, until arguably the end of AC) to be the agressor in most any relationship. I don't mean this in a bad way- I love Cloud to death. He's an awesome, complex character. But... hm, I get the impression that he doesn't know much of 'the world', if you know what I mean =p
Ever seen Yubinbasya draw girls? Yikes! Their artwork seems to be hit or miss in many cases- they get it right, or it gets screwed up. I've actually seen some drawings where Aeris seems to have breasts on her stomach (see like here! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/melfra/f1a6a799.jpg)).
(ze link, she does not work! I weep!)
I am completely incoherent. I accidentally slept until 1 ;.; Screw this, I'm getting an alarm clock, dammit!
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Oh, absolutely. Spot on. That sort of weakness is why Cloud is so compelling, I think. You can relate to him more than you can relate to virtually any FF hero before him. :3 And about Cloud not knowing much... XD You know those "On The Way to a Smile" stories? In Tifa's story, when they reopen Seventh Heaven.... "Cloud's job was to obtain the ingredients they needed for their food and wine. He didn't know most of the names of the fruit and vegetables. At first, Tifa was surprised but when she thought about the life that Cloud had, it couldn't be helped. It was funny when she thought about how Cloud's new life was going to start by remembering the names of vegetables. No, I musn't laugh, Tifa thought to herself."
... oh, yikes. Yes, Yubinbasya should stick to the menfolk.
Ha ha, I know your pain. XD I managed to sleep through an entire day a few weeks ago. It sucked.